Discussion:
[X2go-dev] iPAD now has X and ssh
John A. Sullivan III
2011-05-23 18:04:16 UTC
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Hello, all. We've received a number of queries about running X2Go on an
iPAD. My understanding to this point is that the absolute fundamentals
are missing. However, I was recently sent the following:

i-SSH for the iPad comes up well in reviews:
Description

A full featured SSH and Telnet emulator of VT100, VT102, VT220, ANSI,
and xterm terminals integrated with a tunneled VNC client and an X
server
Customer Reviews
Great SSH client

by Mikaey0

This is definitely a great SSH client. Everything I use works as I
expect it to when connecting to my box at home. Definitely nice to see a
working X server for the iPad as well!
Amazingly functional

by Nick75985

Continues to amaze me with new functionality I discover.
Never crashed on me.
Incredibly full-featured and useful app.

by quantumonion

Edit: Wow, TextExpander support just added! If an app could give you
goose bumps, iSSH would be that app.

Only two suggestions come to mind.

1. TextExpander support (done!)
2. Native Dropbox support for the connection list

It's possible to save the connection list to Dropbox with the export to
clipboard feature, but it'd be great to offer an option to auto-sync any
changes automatically.

The above are just nits though. This has become one of those
indispensable apps that you'd have to pry my cold dead fingers off of
before I'd give it up.


Given the above, what would it take to get X2Go to run on an iPAD using
i-SSH? Is anyone interested if giving it a run? It's definitely outside
of our skill set. Thanks - John
Mike Gabriel
2011-05-23 18:42:58 UTC
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Hi John,
Post by John A. Sullivan III
Hello, all. We've received a number of queries about running X2Go on an
iPAD. My understanding to this point is that the absolute fundamentals
[...]
Given the above, what would it take to get X2Go to run on an iPAD using
i-SSH? Is anyone interested if giving it a run? It's definitely outside
of our skill set. Thanks - John
iPad - Test Platform
--------------------
I cannot speak for Alex, but I remember the last time when a major
problem about X2go development for Mac was the loss (theft) of Alex's
MacBook.

With an iPad the situation is probably similar: no hardware - i.e.
iPad - to test on available at all.

Would it be a possibility to provide an iPad for testing/development?

AppStore and GPL software
-------------------------
There also has been an issue around AppStore and GPL in January 2011:
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/no-gpl-apps-for-apples-app-store/8046

If there will be an X2goClient for iPad in the future it will surely
need a distribution pathway. How would that work? (I am not at all
familiar with Macs, but may I bring up the question nonetheless?).

Greets,
Mike
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John A. Sullivan III
2011-05-23 19:47:33 UTC
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Post by Mike Gabriel
Hi John,
Post by John A. Sullivan III
Hello, all. We've received a number of queries about running X2Go on an
iPAD. My understanding to this point is that the absolute fundamentals
[...]
Given the above, what would it take to get X2Go to run on an iPAD using
i-SSH? Is anyone interested if giving it a run? It's definitely outside
of our skill set. Thanks - John
iPad - Test Platform
--------------------
I cannot speak for Alex, but I remember the last time when a major
problem about X2go development for Mac was the loss (theft) of Alex's
MacBook.
With an iPad the situation is probably similar: no hardware - i.e.
iPad - to test on available at all.
Would it be a possibility to provide an iPad for testing/development?
AppStore and GPL software
-------------------------
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/no-gpl-apps-for-apples-app-store/8046
If there will be an X2goClient for iPad in the future it will surely
need a distribution pathway. How would that work? (I am not at all
familiar with Macs, but may I bring up the question nonetheless?).
Greets,
Mike
At the least, we can probably come up with a test user. I'm not sure if
we can come up with a test iPAD; it's possible. Good point about the
distribution. I'd imagine it has to go through the iStore. I don't
know if the iSSH fellow would be interested in bundling the X2Go client.
That would save us having to deal with the iStore but also remove the
possible revenue stream. I do not know if there is any free / open
source mechanism within the Apple ecosystem.

I'll also push back to some of the folks who are asking us and see if
they have any suggestions. Thanks - John
Heinz-M. Graesing
2011-05-24 05:41:18 UTC
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Hi John,

thank you for posting this news. It is very interesting what already can
be done with this closed platform.
Though I really would like to see a real open mobile platform...
I tested the MeeGo Tablet Edition on my EEEPC and it is still based on
Xorg and the userland tools. I don't know what will happen to this
platform in future, but it really would be a better platform to run
x2goclient.
Post by Mike Gabriel
Hi John,
iPad - Test Platform
--------------------
I cannot speak for Alex, but I remember the last time when a major
problem about X2go development for Mac was the loss (theft) of Alex's
MacBook.
Yes Alex's macbook is lost.
Post by Mike Gabriel
With an iPad the situation is probably similar: no hardware - i.e.
iPad - to test on available at all.
No, we don't own an IPad.
Post by Mike Gabriel
AppStore and GPL software
-------------------------
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/no-gpl-apps-for-apples-app-store/8046
x2goclient is made with the help of C++ anduses Qt. If you want to get
your app inside the app store it should be cocoa and objective C. There
are some rules about the allowed number of services that can be started
too (as far as I know).
Post by Mike Gabriel
If there will be an X2goClient for iPad in the future it will surely
need a distribution pathway. How would that work? (I am not at all
familiar with Macs, but may I bring up the question nonetheless?).
Maybe it is more realistic to combine one of the ajaxvnc solutions with
a virtual x2go display.

Regards,

Heinz
Paul Menzel
2011-05-24 07:56:56 UTC
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Dear John and Mike,
Post by John A. Sullivan III
Post by Mike Gabriel
Post by John A. Sullivan III
Hello, all. We've received a number of queries about running X2Go on an
iPAD. My understanding to this point is that the absolute fundamentals
[...]
Given the above, what would it take to get X2Go to run on an iPAD using
i-SSH? Is anyone interested if giving it a run? It's definitely outside
of our skill set. Thanks - John
iPad - Test Platform
--------------------
I cannot speak for Alex, but I remember the last time when a major
problem about X2go development for Mac was the loss (theft) of Alex's
MacBook.
With an iPad the situation is probably similar: no hardware - i.e.
iPad - to test on available at all.
Would it be a possibility to provide an iPad for testing/development?
AppStore and GPL software
-------------------------
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/no-gpl-apps-for-apples-app-store/8046
If there will be an X2goClient for iPad in the future it will surely
need a distribution pathway. How would that work? (I am not at all
familiar with Macs, but may I bring up the question nonetheless?).
At the least, we can probably come up with a test user. I'm not sure if
we can come up with a test iPAD; it's possible. Good point about the
distribution. I'd imagine it has to go through the iStore. I don't
know if the iSSH fellow would be interested in bundling the X2Go client.
That would save us having to deal with the iStore but also remove the
possible revenue stream. I do not know if there is any free / open
source mechanism within the Apple ecosystem.
I'll also push back to some of the folks who are asking us and see if
they have any suggestions.
XBMC [1] was ported to Apple hardware [2]. To get it installed I think
you need to jailbreak the system somehow and then you can use the
package manager (`apt-get`(?)) to install the software.


Thanks,

Paul


[1] http://xbmc.org/
[2] http://xbmc.org/theuni/2011/02/06/xbmc-update-for-ideviceappletv2/
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